Sunday, July 8, 2018

In respect to Israeli/Polish holocaust blunder - I have both of you enough

Poles are just as much responsible for holocaust as Jews alone are responsible for one(and Jews and Poles served in German military killing both = killing Jews and killing Poles and both of you were foremost victims of neonazi Germany as well as Moscow), the real question is weather we can both(all as it concerns also Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans) move onto onto the next level from ground known as total retardation(what we see is happening) to prevent yet another Berlin/Moscow/Tehran's disaster and instead build better future for both of us(all Eastern European and Jews).
Perhaps to seat to businesses table would do more for both nations in respect to stated above(Germany has to pay Poland for WWII reparations and Poland/Israel must start real talks - business talks - Poland should be interested in Polish stake in Israel and vise versa - there is no place for anti semitism or division of any kind between those who suffered same faith in the past in today's world).


Poland’s Institute of National Remembrance has rejected Yad Vashem historians’ comments that last month’s Israeli-Polish declaration contained historical errors and paved the way for legal action against Holocaust researchers – even if these now would be civil proceedings, not criminal.

On June 27, after months of talks with Israeli officials, Poland said it was amending the section imposing criminal sanctions in the so-called Holocaust Law, which was passed in January. In signing the joint statement, Israel accepted the Polish narrative concerning the Holocaust, which emphasizes the Poles’ efforts in saving Jews and minimizes their role in the killing of Jews.

Over the weekend, the institute called for research cooperation with Yad Vashem in order to discuss the issue.

The institute’s vice president, historian Mateusz Szpytma, said that “any topic, even the most controversial one, should and can be brought to a discussion by Israeli and Polish historians,” adding that his institute was willing to cooperate with Yad Vashem in science and education.

In an interview with the Polish news agency, Szpytma said he was “surprised” by Yad Vashem’s criticism of the joint declaration, adding that “it contained no controversial elements.” He added that the declaration “was congruent with historical knowledge about World War II.”

As he put it, “obviously such declarations are not binding guidelines for historians in Poland and Israel. Historians conduct their research and everyone is entitled to their own interpretation.”

Szpytma said he did not accept Yad Vashem’s argument that the assistance given by Poles to Jews during the war was limited, including the claim that the Polish underground generally did not help Jews during the Holocaust.

He said that considering conditions during wartime, “aid was substantial.” He added that “if anyone thinks differently they obviously have a right to do so, even if it does not seem convincing.”

He said the declaration by the Israeli and Polish prime ministers “did not determine whether this assistance could have been broader or not. We’ll leave that to historians.”

Szpytma also referred to criticism in Israel regarding the comparison of anti-Semitism to hostility toward Poles. He said that “obviously we know that anti-Semitism is more prevalent than anti-Polish sentiments around the world and has a longer history. That doesn’t mean one shouldn’t fight both phenomena.”

Meanwhile the Holocaust Museum in Washington has joined ranks with Yad Vashem's view, and urges that the historical issues should be left to the academics.

The Israeli Historical Society has also expressed support for Yad Vashem. "We all agree that the prime ministers' declaration contains a serious distortion of historical facts."

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